Is Mace Windu, Supreme Leader Snoke?

With the release of Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens in 2015, and the introduction of new characters such as Rey, Finn, Poe, Kylo Ren and Supreme Leader Snoke amongst several others, there has been a lot of speculation as to what the backstories of these characters are. 


Firstly is Supreme Leader Snoke. He served as the supreme leader of the First Order, 30 years after the battle of Endor took place. Snoke is skilled with the dark side of the force and has also trained the force-sensitive Kylo Ren as well as one other unknown apprentice.

With the introduction of Snoke in the film, the main question being asked by fans is, who is he?

After doing several amounts of research and watching all the films on rotation I have reason to believe that Supreme Leader Snoke is, in fact, Jedi Master Mace Windu.

So, now I’m going to explain my reasoning behind this and the first point being made is that Samuel L Jackson recently did a Twitter Q&A in which he claimed that Mace Windu is still alive. After seeing this George Lucas confirmed that this could be true.

Secondly is the facial disfigurement of the two. During Revenge of the Sith, when Mace Windu and Sheev Palpatine battle one another, Sheev uses his full power with regards to his force lightning which would definitely leave Mace covered in scars and wrinkles beyond repair as seen when Mace Windu deflects the lightning back onto Sheev Palpatine leaving him almost unrecognisable.


Moving on, we have Mace Windu’s Iconic purple lightsaber which resembles a balance of both the Light and the Dark side of the force. He is also one of the only Jedi to use Vaapad, which is a state of mind rather than solely a fighting style that will allow the wielder to channel their own inner darkness into the duel and accept the fury of their opponents. This style was seen multiple times within the prequel trilogy, for example:

  • When Mace Windu cut off Jango Fett’s Head.
  • When he was about to kill Sheev Palpatine before being stopped by Anakin because “It wasn’t the Jedi way”.

The whole balance between the light and dark sides of the force is something Snoke mentions in the Force Awakens and is the main reason Snoke made Kylo Ren his apprentice as he was force sensitive in both sides of the force.

Mace Windu could see himself in Kylo Ren.

A question that will most likely come when talking about this theory is why would Mace Windu turn to the dark side?  Well, he could have a potential vendetta against the Skywalker’s as Anakin cut off Windu’s arm and betrayed him during his battle with Palpatine. This could then be his motivation to find Luke Skywalker, to put an end to the bloodline.

There is another theory that suggests that Mace Windu believes he was, in fact, the chosen one, rather than Anakin which could be the reason for why Windu was always hard on Anakin and why he tried to prevent Anakin becoming a Jedi Master.

When Qui-Gon says that Anakin could bring a balance to the force, Mace Windu isn’t happy as he has already mastered the balance with his Vaapad training.

The plot thickens when Kylo Ren kills Han Solo, during the scene, Han tells Kylo that Snoke is planning on killing him once he has completed his mission. This would make total sense once again as Kylo Ren is of the Skywalker lineage.

The final point I will make is based on his fighting style. Several Jedi have their own signature move and that move is backward swinging slice which is seen in every one of his fight scenes. In the Force Awakens, we see this special move once again, by none other than Kylo Ren which could suggest that Snoke/Mace Windu taught Kylo Ren how to fight.


So there you have it, my theory regarding the identity of Supreme Leader Snoke, it’s only a theory and based on opinion and my own research. Hopefully, Episode VIII – The Last Jedi will reveal all.


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